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08-13-2009, 07:37 AM
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Junior
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Mixing Concrete to use for brick edging
Along public walkways, we compacted a granite base along it about the width of the compactor and laid holland bricks in a soilder style along its entire lenght.
Instead of using a brick edging, I mixed up some concrete mix and slapped it all along the outside of the bricks the entire lenght.
When it harden, I pushed the landscape stone back up to the outside of the bricks.
I was wondering if anyone had expierence doing this or using this method?
I am not sure if this is going to work or not keeping the bricks in place.. but I figured since the stone is butted up to it, it would help hold it in place too.
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08-13-2009, 09:27 AM
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Junior
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Over time, the concrete will break down due to freeze thaw (assuming you are in an area that gets freezing temps) since its not a solid concrete element. The stones may help hold the down the concrete as it breaks down over time, but won't save the pavers from moving, especially if there are any gaps between the pavers and landscaping stones. Of course, this could take a while for it to fall apart (one year to several years), but this is not viewed as a long term solution. Edging such as a poured concrete beam would have been better (more expensive too). And I have heard of these plastic edge restraints that are supposed to be pretty good (Pave Tech guys, do you know what I'm refering to?). 
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08-20-2009, 01:42 PM
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Junior
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Plymouth, MI
Posts: 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrissygardenscape
Along public walkways, we compacted a granite base along it about the width of the compactor and laid holland bricks in a soilder style along its entire lenght.
Instead of using a brick edging, I mixed up some concrete mix and slapped it all along the outside of the bricks the entire lenght.
When it harden, I pushed the landscape stone back up to the outside of the bricks.
I was wondering if anyone had expierence doing this or using this method?
I am not sure if this is going to work or not keeping the bricks in place.. but I figured since the stone is butted up to it, it would help hold it in place too.
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I use concrete all the time. However, I dig a small trench and then hand lay the concrete into the trench and ultimately up to about 1/4 inch from the top of the brick pavers, on a 45 degree angle. This technique has served me well, for many years.
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08-20-2009, 02:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bloomington, MN
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HUGE waste of labor. Extend the base beyond the pavements edge (same amount that you dug down in depth) and install pave edge. Cheap out with 'L' shaped products and your jobs will look like crap in 2-5 years. Not only my experience, trust me
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10-06-2009, 01:55 AM
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Junior
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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I agree
I am agree with the reply of Bricktrimble.
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10-29-2009, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlent
I use concrete all the time. However, I dig a small trench and then hand lay the concrete into the trench and ultimately up to about 1/4 inch from the top of the brick pavers, on a 45 degree angle. This technique has served me well, for many years.
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I know a lot of guys still use a troweled concrete edge but when you read a description of the process they go through, like the one above, it really drives home the fact that this is a very costly method. Labor!!! Reduce Labor!!! Stop worring about the few dollars pave edge costs and start worring about your wasted labor!!!
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11-18-2009, 03:31 PM
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Junior
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Prior Lake, Minnesota
Posts: 13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlent
I use concrete all the time. However, I dig a small trench and then hand lay the concrete into the trench and ultimately up to about 1/4 inch from the top of the brick pavers, on a 45 degree angle. This technique has served me well, for many years.
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If you are able to dig a small trench into the compacted base without disturbing the laid pavers then you are definitely not getting good compaction with your base. I started with this practice in 1980 and used rerod to reinforce. It still eventually pushed out.
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